Weekend Open Thread
Feb 24, 11:42 AM CST
In announcing that he was dropping out of the 2008 Presidential race, former Iowa Governor Tom Vilsack said that his campaign had “everything to win the nomination and general election – everything except money.”
Would seem to me that would be the exact opposite of the Ricketts syndrome, in which the candidate has nothing they need to win, except money.
Have a great weekend.
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Meanwhile, I have some basic questions about next February’s Democratic caucuses in Nebraska.
I noticed in a previous blog post the Douglas County Central Committee was beginning to organize their county’s 354 precincts for the caucuses. While I view the February caucus as an opportunity for party members to voice their preferences in the presidential primaries, what efforts are underway to prepare for the caucuses in places like York, Loup or Keith Counties where they don’t currently have County Chairs?
Perhaps this strategy is already in place and I’m just not aware of it? I would like to learn more. Please share how this process will work towards the benefit of the party as a whole. While I live in Lincoln I deeply care that Democrats from every corner of rural Nebraska are prepared for the February caucuses.
How many total precincts are there in the state of Nebraska?
Just wondering…
— Robert Smith Feb 24, 03:11 PM CST #
I can’t speak for the NDP, but the concerns you raise are definitely legitimate and are recognized by our leadership. Right now, the shape the caucus system will take is still being crafted – and we need to see how a few things play out in the legislature before any final model can really be chosen. But, rest assured, this will be a statewide caucus in which Democrats from every corner of Nebraska will finally have a voice in deciding our next President.
— Kyle Michaelis Feb 24, 03:43 PM CST #
Lots of talk on this blog and elsewhere the last few years about the need for grassroots politics, so it is now or never. The NDP SCC acted decisively and is now committed to the precinct caucuses. Contact the NDP and let them know you will look after your precinct.
— vince powers Feb 24, 06:28 PM CST #
A phone call from an old friend is a great call to action.
Just have them call 1-800-677-7068 to volunteer.
— Steve Hollister Feb 24, 07:45 PM CST #
How’s that for motivation?
I know that Joe Shoemaker has been pushing us hard in the 3rd CD to get going on this. Be ready to work your tail off David.
— Brian T. Osborn Feb 24, 07:45 PM CST #
Everyone is correct in their responses thus far. We will be working to find County Chairs in each of Nebraska’s 93 counties. Those Chairs will be an integral part of our efforts to organize the 1,667 precincts in this state.
Brian said it – we must complete the 93 county strategy. And, working together with all of you, we will.
As Kyle said, the concrete plans for the presidential caucus are still being formed. As they develop, we’ll share them here and in other venues. Another big task will be to train Nebraskans as to what a caucus is and how the system works. We have a lot of work ahead of us.
I’m excited to be joined on our team by several outstanding new field organizers. They are eager to get to work at the tasks at hand – and have already hit the ground running.
Thanks to everyone for the spirited discussion on this issue.
— Eric Fought Feb 24, 10:34 PM CST #
— tomjoad63 Feb 25, 10:03 AM CST #
They don’t. You have to be a registered Democrat residing in your precinct to be eligible to participate in the precinct caucuses.
— trublu Feb 25, 10:18 AM CST #
Iraqi civilian deaths are estimated at more than 54,000 and could be much higher; some unofficial estimates range into the hundreds of thousands. The U.N. Assistance Mission for Iraq reports more than 34,000 deaths in 2006 alone.
Among those polled for the AP survey, however, the median estimate of Iraqi deaths was 9,890. The median is the point at which half the estimates were higher and half lower.
I’m also pretty sure they don’t know about the massive refugee crisis (scroll down to “Xenophobes R Us”) the war has created.
— Don Kuhns Feb 25, 11:20 AM CST #
How did Jay Stoddard, who spent less than $25,000 and was further down the ballot, get 40,000 more votes than David Hahn who spent $400,000 and was helped by the NDP?
— The Strategist Feb 25, 11:39 AM CST #
— Brian T. Osborn Feb 25, 12:08 PM CST #
— Brian T. Osborn Feb 25, 12:12 PM CST #
First of all, it is important to understand that the rules for our caucus have not yet been written. Any details about the NDP caucus system that we discuss before the rules are finalized are speculation. Though it is educated speculation, it is speculation none the less.
In Iowa—where most of my caucus knowledge originates, being involved there in 2004—caucus-goers must be a registered Democrat or they must register as a Democrat on the day of the caucus. Independents and Republicans who are not willing to change their voter registration are welcome to observe the caucus, but they cannot participate. I’m not as familiar with the rules in other states that use a caucus system.
Since caucusing is a Party activity and not a State election, the State of Nebraska’s rules about Election Day voter registration do not apply. In this sense, caucusing is more open than a closed primary system like Nebraska’s.
— Eric Van Horn Feb 25, 01:45 PM CST #
And just for a matter of fact there shouldn’t be a closed primary system in this State or any State for that matter and most important at the Federal level. There should be a multiple parties system so that everyone has their say, where do you think the Democrats and the Republicans came from? The denial of such is a denial of the right to the political process. I don’t believe in that first and foremost as an American and second as a Democrat.
Since when did our Founders believe in a two party system? Because our history proves otherwise.
But it has been the two party system that has prevented this because of who knows fear of a split in the parties. But guess what it has happened and is happening and we should allow these individuals a seat at the table under a different party.
— Victoria Feb 25, 05:13 PM CST #
So are people on this blog telling me that a candidate who has run before and spends only 6% of what a much higher profile candidates spends will yield a 40,000+ vote result?
I’ve met David Hahn and think he’s a nice guy. But I think if anyone thinks he ran the a stellar campaign should get a second opinion from someone who has actually won or worked on a winning campaign in Nebraska.
Also, what do County Party Chairs do during election years and how do you become one in Nebraska? I’ve been looking online and can’t find anything so if someone can help me out, I’d appreciate it.
*TS
— The Strategist Feb 25, 05:36 PM CST #
— Frito Bandito Feb 25, 05:58 PM CST #
I am very excited about the presidential caucus. This is the opportunity to really implement a 93 county strategy. We have a lot of work to do in the next year, and I have every confidence that we can get it done.
— Dave Sund Feb 25, 06:10 PM CST #
While it is still being crafted what can we do as citizens to ensure the best possible caucus system for Nebraska?
For instance, do I need to contact my representative in the Unicameral about the formation of the caucus?
Kyle…what are some of the, “things (that must) play out in the legislature before any final model can really be chosen.”
And finally any plans to liven up this web site?
Will there be any pod casts or video added this year? I have a feeling that You Tube is going to heavily impact the primaries and Presidential Election this time around.
— Robert Smith Feb 25, 09:17 PM CST #
LB460 is still in committee, and I personally have no clue how it will fare or whether it will advance any further. Although I believe the legislation, as written, would give us a fairly open hand in designing our caucus, it’s possible that some strings could be attached or that some uniformity might be demanded if the Republican Party decided to follow our lead. Again, I’m just saying these are possibilities about which we should be aware.
Right now, it seems to me that the most important thing every Democrat can do in this state is help recruit precinct captains and caucus organizers. The things we absolutely know we’ll need to make this experiement a success are manpower and dedication. If we have those in place, I don’t see how we can fail regardless of the exact form our caucus takes.
— Kyle Michaelis Feb 25, 09:40 PM CST #
Are you The Decider’s cousin? Just curious, never heard a name like that before.
There is more information out in the real world than you will ever find on your monitor.
You asked about what a county chair does during an election year. That depends on the chair. I can only speak for myself.
My county had no party. I felt I wanted to help in some way so I looked into it and got asked to volunteer for the position. I then organized our county’s first convention in many years. I was elected to the position at that time.
What did I do during allthat? Well, I’ve managed to save the souls of several Republicans and Independents by having them switch to our party. I found some really good people who just needed a nudge to come out of the woodwork and start working towards growing our party and helping out with various campaigns. I helped organize meet-and-greets, fundraisers for both Ben Nelson and Scott Kleeb, and decorated our entry in the Swedish Days parade. I helped put together our booth at the County Fair. I helped our only contested candidate in the county with literature and newspaper ads. I helped place yard signs. I wrote letters to the editors of all the regional newspapers in support of our party and our candidates.
Then I also went to work for David Hahn because I really believed in the guy. I didn’t just meet him, I got to know him, and I consider that an honor and a privilege. A smarter, more altruistic person I doubt you’ll ever meet. That guy, to me, is what the Democratic party should be all about. I don’t agree with him in all things, by any means. He’s more conservative than I, but he’ll stand with you and fight for you, and that is important. Maybe that’s why I’m so willing to stand and fight for him.
I traveled a lot for David. Marched in parades, organized meet & greets, harangued people at festivals across the state and accompanied his running mate, Steve Loschen to inumerable events.
So, do you want to be a county chair? We’ve got some counties here in Nebraska that need one. Why don’t you move to one of those and do as I did . . . volunteer. Otherwise, it’s a position that requires that you to be elected at your county convention. Just remember, most importantly, it isn’t about having any power. It is about serving.
— Brian T. Osborn Feb 25, 10:00 PM CST #
I would bet that the difference had to do with three things:
1st) Stoddard’s opponent is less well known, less liked by Republicans and Independents, etc than Heineman was. In that respect, Stoddard was able to ride the general ‘pro-Democratic’ wave in a way that Hahn wasn’t.
2nd) the Media treatment of the gubernatorial race was what was most inexcusable, treating Heineman like the next Jesus as soon as he won the primary.
3rd) credit where credit is due, Heineman ran an amazing campaign.
I think those 3 things more than makeup for 40,000 votes.
NOTE: I have met and talked with both the candidates in question many times, and consider them both great great Democrats. I am incredibly appreciative of what they did to build our party by running races that could only be considered quixotic.
— John O-R Feb 26, 02:41 AM CST #
— Jnord Feb 26, 11:17 AM CST #
While the caucuses will provide our party members new exciting reasons to get involved with the selection of the Democratic Presidential Candidate, isn’t there some value in allowing the Democratic candidates names to appear on the primary ballot?
Sure the party faithful will turn out for the caucuses, but what of the elderly, or those working two jobs to make ends meet, that can’t afford the time to participate in the caucus process? There are those that have voted for years in primaries using absentee ballots just to make their choices known.
Would it be so bad if we had both options?
How does everyone feel about this?
— Robert Smith Feb 26, 04:43 PM CST #
This is a win-win for us. We’ve been saying for years that we need to get energized and organized, well… this is our opportunity to do it.
— Dave Sund Feb 26, 05:15 PM CST #
No trick plays (should have spent more money on losing candidate X) or hail mary passes (organizing in counties where the County Chairs are despised by most everyone in their community) will save us. We need to do the hard work of educating our team on the basics.
Maybe those of you who have bold plays to reform the team chemistry or fire the head coach should show up to practice first and learn how to block and tackle before you try to start calling any plays.
It’s how Devaney lead us to so many victories.
— Quarterback Feb 26, 07:50 PM CST #
Maybe you should learn to spell your name before you start slinging advice.
Still got that rock in your pocket?
— Brian T. Osborn Feb 26, 08:24 PM CST #
I’ve played on Sundays for over 25 years. By your obvious response, I’ll look for you in the stands.
Be sure to do you duty and call in Monday morning and tell everyone what they did wrong. It’s wouldn’t be Nebraska without it.
— Quarterback Feb 26, 08:35 PM CST #
— Brian T. Osborn Feb 26, 08:40 PM CST #
I’ll be sure to read your upcoming book on internet etiquette and give it to my children for the Holidays.
You never responded to my original post about blocking and tackling.
Any real thoughts about something that matters?
— Quarterback Feb 26, 08:55 PM CST #
This is politics. Politics, IMHO, should be about people, ideas and ideals. You think it is about strategies, football analogies, and money.
OK. I disagree.
I’m sure your children could learn a thing or two taking the advice of old coots like me. I’m a grumpy ol goat, but I stand for what I believe in.
— Brian T. Osborn Feb 26, 09:18 PM CST #
I’ve been thinking about what you said, “I’ve played on Sundays for over 25 years. By your obvious response, I’ll look for you in the stands.”
Tell me, just what is a football team that plays on Sundays without those folks up in the stands?
It’s probably just a bunch of fat, middle aged, old men playing touch football.
Remember, its the people in the stands that it is really all about. Without them, what is the point of playing the game?
— Brian T. Osborn Feb 26, 10:18 PM CST #
With friends like these, who needs enemies?
P.S. I’m not coming back to this blog, so keep your bitching to yourself.
— Who needs enemies? Feb 27, 07:59 AM CST #
It’s called democracy, get used to it.
— Brian T. Osborn Feb 27, 11:21 AM CST #
— Luke Feb 27, 02:03 PM CST #
I sympathize with you. The last cycle sucked for a lot of us who felt that the state party didn’t play as a team. There was no excuse for the way some candidates were treated in 2006.
That said, it’s unfair to blame the NDP entirely for Hahn’s failure to even come close to a win. You cannot win a race in the state of Nebraska if you completely ignore a large base of Democratic voters.
But it does us no good now to play the blame game. There have been wholesale changes in the Nebraska Democratic Party staff. An executive director with strong ties to Nebraska Democrats of all sorts. Field organizers who actually live and work in the districts they are representing.
I think the state party has been very responsive to our concerns in the wake of the 2006 elections. Let’s give them a chance to prove it before we bury them for the mistakes of the old staff.
— Dave Sund Feb 27, 02:15 PM CST #
First of all, let me say that I appreciate and respect your comments. Your signature means that you stand behind what you say.
I have used David Hahn as an example in the past but I no longer will, except in cases where someone is attacking him, or it is pertinent to the discussion. Ask Jay Stoddard how the party treated him, ask some of the other candidates that were dismissed out of hand because they weren’t considered to be “viable.” I would like to know who gets to make that determination and what criteria is considered.
There is a misconception here. I do not blame David’s results entirely on the NDP. Our party didn’t just fail David, it failed all Nebraskans. David wasn’t a professional politician and needed the help that our party could, and should, have been able to provide him. In short, they should have sent him to Camp Connealy.
I understand that our staff pretty much left en masse but I believe a mess was left behind. We need to clean that up to ensure that we aren’t just repeating mistakes. So far I haven’t even heard a debate about what went wrong, only exhortations to praise what went right and to “move on.”
Everyone wants to race down the highway at full speed into the caucuses and the ‘08 elections, but our vehicle has a flat tire and we either need to patch it or get out the spare.
I am very pleased that Matt Connealy has come on board to help us move toward a brighter future. I’m certain he will do all within his powers to promote our party, and has already begun doing so. I would hope that he understands that my criticism isn’t aimed at him. The mess wasn’t made on his watch.
— Brian T. Osborn Feb 27, 06:11 PM CST #
The two positioins described here are starkly different. We have the same leadership and the same policies we have had for years. There have been no changes at the top—just cosmetic changes, a shuffling of staff.
Either you think we are winning our share or we are not. If you think we are, you adopt the reactionary position most advocated by Kyle and yourself; no reform, “trust our leaders,” “you are either with us or against us” and “any criticism undermines the volunteers.”
If you belong to the camp that has observed us lose 16/18 federal races and 15/15 state races in recent years, cosmetic change and reactionary calls for unity is not enough. Something fundamental is wrong.
Quarterback, if this were a football team we would not have had the same coach for six straight wipeout seasons. Somebody would have come to their senses—the owners of the team, in this case the 372,000 registered Democrats in Nebraska, not an elected dictator—and made fundamental changes in the way we do business.
“Keep digging” is a recipe for more failure. “Shut up and trust our leaders” is a doomed policy. We need a honest and OPEN reappraisal. The “rumors” of scandal can only be characterized as rumors because of a coverup by our failed leadership.
We deserve MUCH better. It’s time to rebuild a two-party system in our state, and it is going to require discrading some dead wood to do it.
— trublu Feb 28, 02:11 PM CST #
I’m sure you’ve read what I’ve written here in the past. Without pouring through the details – it does none of us any good, particularly in such a public forum – and with the understanding that I am speaking only for myself, I will say that the old staff had a heated, often adversarial relationship with the Young Democrats.
So, if there’s one place where a noticeable improvement came almost immediately, it was there. I’ve been given reason to trust that Matt and his staff will do a better job, and reason to believe that we aren’t going to be taken for granted anymore.
You don’t like the state chair. I get it. But tell me how complaining about it does anything to help us win elections?
We have real opportunities in place to actually build the party. We’ve got to organize for the caucus in February next year. Douglas County is getting ready to register more Democrats. Things are being done. Progress is being made.
I’m not saying “shut up and trust our leaders.” By all means, ask questions, criticize if necessary; But don’t bury Matt or anyone else for what the people who held their jobs before them did.
Constructive criticism is good. I thought our post election discussion here did a lot of good, and folks like Vince Powers were more than willing to hear us out and listen to our concerns.
We need to work as a team this time around. Not the “get in line” mentality that dominated the 2006 cycle, but a genuine atmosphere of working together.
I understand that you have a genuine distrust of the NDP leadership. Some of that is deserved. But I would ask you to remember that it is the staff, not Steve, who will be responsible for building our organization for 2008. And that staff is completely different than it was this time last year.
— Dave Sund Feb 28, 03:04 PM CST #
“You don’t like the state chair. I get it. But tell me how complaining about it does anything to help us win elections?”
It’s very simple. If the state chair is a loser, we need new blood. We can’t turn things around if those who fathered our losing streak are still following the same policies that have failed us repeatedly for so many years. We need democracy, we need openness, and we need an emphasis on buidling a broad-based party, not a tightly-held oligarchy. I do not believe our current leadership understands our needs, and I advert to their losing streak as evidence. The problems are sufficently serious that cosmetic change will not suffice. The problems are deeper.
“Douglas County is getting ready to register more Democrats. Things are being done. Progress is being made.”
We have heard this over and over and over from the present leadership for many years. They were wrong before. Why are they right now? More Democrats have left the party under our current leadership team than ever before in history. They always say they are working to register more Democrats; they always fail.
“I’m not saying ‘shut up and trust our leaders.’”
No, Kyle is.
“We need to work as a team this time around.”
We’ve tried that. To put it in terms that 1/4back can understand, we’re the ‘69 Mets. Teamwork or happytalk alone will not get us out of the cellar. Our problem is not a morale problem, it is a matter of strategic blunders that must be corrected before teawork will work. Nothing is more discouraging than fighting and fighting and working and working only to fail and fail again.
“It is the staff, not Steve, who will be responsible for building our organization for 2008. ”
I think this is a fundamental misconception about the way our party SHOULD operate. The solution is to activate the 172,000 registered Democrats in Nebraska everywhere in the state, not to depend on four or five young people in Nebraska who are learning as they go how to do what they have never done. They are at best coordinators for the real work, which will be done by an energized and motivated base. Our current leadership is clueless about this reality. Staff is a small part of the solution. Leadership is everything.
We can turn this around in a very short time if we get leadership that knows what needs to be done. We cannot do it with slogans and we cannot put the burden on so-called professional staff. This organization will continue to fail or will rise again on the strength of the rank and file. The failed policies of our current leadership is THE chokepoint.
— trublu Feb 28, 03:47 PM CST #
I would point you toward Douglas County as an example of what can be done, though. Douglas County Democrats did a phenomenal job in 2006. Pam Tusa, Don Kleine, and John Ewing beat incumbent Republicans. Roger Morissey was reelected. So, when the Douglas County party says we’re going to register a bunch of new Democrats, I trust that we’re going to work hard and get it done.
— Dave Sund Feb 28, 04:34 PM CST #
Congrats to Douglas County. Kleine received more funds from the NDP than any other candidate in Nebraska—one person made the decision to put all of our eggs in that basket. I’m glad Kleine won, but do we want this party to be run as a dictatorship or do we want a wider buy-in? There were many successes at the county level throughout Nebraska. The colossal failures were at the state and federal level, where we lost 8/9.
The failures of teamwork at the state level were very clearly the fault of our leadership, which has been extremely divisive and negative.
Connealy is part of the solution to that problem. But we were told by the guy who hired Barry Rubin that he was the best person in the United States for the job. Now he says Connealy, who is the complete opposite of Barry, is the best person in the United States for the job. Could it be that the person who is unilaterally hiring for this position is consistently wrong?
The ONLY requirement for a job with our present leadership is sycophancy. Competence is not even a consideration. Over and over people who could fix things have been marginalized because they are not lapdogs. The result has been continued deterioration instead of the turnaround we need.
I sincerely hope you can succeed in Omaha, because Douglas County is extremely important to the whole state. But don’t forget that the concentration of sources in one CD or county does not necessarily facilitate the larger goal of statewide success. It will take mobilization of every resource in the state to achieve the success we all dream about. Our present leaders, judging by the way they distributed our resources in 2006, seem unaware of the big picture or their responsibility as statewide leaders.
— trublu Feb 28, 04:54 PM CST #
Tell us your political experience in Nebraska and let us judge your suggestions and leadership to solve the problems.
That’s how it works right? Leaders actually do the hard work, the planning, and provide a vision for their followers to buy into.
So, instead of just writing about how bad things are, first tell us how they are in your own backyard? Tell us about your County Chair and what they are doing wrong and how to fix it. Tell us why their meetings are getting at least 100 Democrats to attend each month?
Tell us how to change it with you at the lead instead of the current leadership. Get us to follow you. Inspire us to go above and beyond the call of duty.
We’ve got five federal races up in 2008. How do you propose we win two of them? Where do we find the candidates? Who’s going to raise the money to help build them an organization? Three field organizers can’t do it alone as you’ve said, so where are we going to find the next generation of leaders with the terrible leadership in your own backyard?
Tell us what County you live in and we’ll sound the alarm!
We’ve got at least 15 legislative races up in 2008. How do you propose we win them? What’s your strategy? Where do we find the candidates? How do we raise the money to help them?
I’m sure you’ll respond back by attacking everyone is actually working to make reforms and changes in our political landscape, so I don’t expect a response.
— yellowdog Feb 28, 07:15 PM CST #
Clearly, some people can not do that and have become nothing more than a cancer on the Nebraska Democratic Party (i.e.TB). Others simply need more time – to sort out the 2006 election and to regain some degree of trust in our party’s leadership. I’m all for these Democrats taking the time they need. I just hope it won’t be too long because we have so much work to do.
— Kyle Michaelis Feb 28, 09:35 PM CST #
“I’m sure you’ll respond back by attacking everyone is actually working to make reforms and changes in our political landscape, so I don’t expect a response.”
You don’t deserve a response. It is not my intention to get into a pointless “mine is bigger than yours” personal exchange. You are trying to kill constructive discussion..
My posting identifies why we are losing elections and how we can fix that. I’m interested in building a winning party by proactively identifying and correcting the mistakes that are holding us back.
— trublu Mar 01, 01:36 AM CST #
Who has had a “chance to be heard”? As far as I am aware, the coverup is intact and no information has been provided to those who would like some honesty and openness.
The reactionary elements in the party, who see a silver lining in every unnecessary lost election, just want us to “move on.” Move on to what, more failures?
If we lack the guts and integrity to face our problems, we face a future no different from the present. And that’s the way it should be. A party that lacks the will to address its problems is a party that should not expect the electorate to reward it with leadership responsibilities. Are the rumors true? As long as information is withheld from the appropriate governing bodies, the rumors will reverberate. We will go on “trusting” our leaders, and the citizens of Nebraska will not be willing to trust us in office.
— trublu Mar 01, 01:57 AM CST #
— Dave Sund Mar 01, 06:13 AM CST #
You are interpeting Godwin’s Rule rather expansively, IMHO, but for the sake of argument, I’ll concede the point. Strike “Germans” and substitute “lackeys.” OK?
— trublu Mar 01, 09:45 AM CST #
You’ve had months to be heard, but – rather than offering leadership – you’ve othered nothing but venom and rancor with an embarrasing mix of sour grapes.
For you to call those of us looking to the future “reactionary” is the absolute height of absurdity. I can’t give you credit as a leader, but you’re certainly a master manipulator of language and the facts.
You sow the seeds of distrust from the shadows because that’s all your good at and that’s where you belong. Our party will restore accountability and it will reform its governing structure, but we will never embrace a cowardly snake like yourself.
No one can promise victory, but this party is on a path of progress and rejuvenation. You offer neither.
I would not even give you the time of day – because you do not deserve it – except someone must challenge your attempts to pollute the well and poison the masses. You are blinded by your personal vendetta. You are a roadblock to our progress. You are a cancer on this party.
I may be too content with the status quo – that I’ll admit. But, this isn’t because I fear reform – I just fear the alternative. With you waiting in the wings and pulling your little strings, I don’t hesitate in the slightest declaring that the devil that we know is better than the devil that we don’t.
You can quote me on that.
Yours in denial,
— Kyle Michaelis Mar 01, 10:09 AM CST #
Great post! You bring a lot to the table.
— trublu Mar 01, 11:50 AM CST #
I repeat my question:
So, instead of just writing about how bad things are, first tell us how they are in your own backyard? Tell us about your County Chair and what they are doing wrong and how to fix it. Tell us why their meetings are not getting at least 100 Democrats to attend each month?
Your silence is deafening.
— yellowdog Mar 01, 02:21 PM CST #
If I’ve overstated my case and gone too far in assaulting your character, I apologize. Only you can know your own intentions and your own heart.
I spoke/typed out of frustration, and that’s a poor reflection on myself. This site exists for Democrats to speak their minds, and you are perfectly within your rights to do so – even in the unproductive and destructive fashion we’ve seen from you ever since last summer.
Carry on.
— Kyle Michaelis Mar 01, 03:24 PM CST #
You first.
— trublu Mar 01, 05:29 PM CST #
— Brian T. Osborn Mar 01, 05:34 PM CST #
— Dave Sund Mar 01, 05:56 PM CST #
— WJB Dem Mar 02, 09:54 AM CST #